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湯家驊:公民黨應為2019年暴力事件負責 如不支持一國兩制留在外國較好
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行政會議成員、民主思路召集人湯家驊今早(4日)在商台節目表示,個人認為悼念六四不是問題,但不建議任何人有組織性地做這些事,因為易令人有不同的聯想。他又評價移居離港的人,如果不支持「一國兩制」與國家根本制度,還是留在外國較好

指國家需要一國兩制香港 矯枉過正非好事

湯家驊憶述,上月民主思路到北京,獲港澳辦主任夏寶龍接見,他形容中央和本港社會開始回復2019年前願意溝通和互相理解的心態。他指行程中與中聯辦前法律部部長、清華大學法學院教授王振民會面,後者解釋內地民主制度,亦沒有要求香港跟隨內地一套。

他提到,本港在社會事件後出現愛國潮,並強調愛國意識,但認為不能忽略「一國兩制」特色,指國家不需要「多一個上海、多一個深圳」,而需要一國兩制的香港,要繼續「講英文」、實行普通法和保持自由開放多元的社會,這些特色和愛國並沒有衝突。他舉例指公共圖書館將部分書籍下架,惟不應矯枉過正。

中國人須「團結一致、槍口對外」

湯家驊認為,六四悼念在過去一段時間內,已經深入人心地與支聯會「結束一黨專政」等口號拉上關係。他相信香港仍是一個多元自由社會,尊重任何人以自己的方式悼念,政府官員也從來沒說過不容許悼念,但港人也要時刻有警惕之心,「要活在當下,不可活在過去」,尤其現時國家面對不少挑戰,受到外國勢力的壓迫、制裁、對抗,中國人要團結一致、槍口對外。「國家對香港的要求只是安穩,不是一種苛求來吧?」所以呼籲港人不要輕易被唆擺。他又指,不少人對中國共產黨的看法,仍然沒有跳出五、六十年代的框架。

被問到移居離港人士,湯家驊指部分人由始至終不相信「一國兩制」、不相信國家的根本制度,這些人離開香港「對香港是有好處,還是有壞處呢,大家可以自己去衡量一下。」他指無論是離港也好,回流也罷,「如果你不信『一國兩制』的話,我都是呼籲你留在外地好些,如果你一心只是想『打倒共產黨』,首先這不會成事,再者你也得不到好處。何必損人不利己呢?」

湯家驊又指,明白到2019年後眾多發展或令港人有不同想法,但亦希望大家明白,當日動亂直接威脅國家安全,例如有人喊口號「要美國海軍陸戰隊來解放香港,而且不是說說笑」,作為國家領導人一定會對香港感到失望,並有警惕心態。他希望這種繃緊的狀態不會是永久性,但港人亦有一些責任,製造條件協助這個「鐘擺」回到稍為中間的位置。

指創立公民黨是「從政以來最大失敗」

湯家驊續指,民主派仍然對中央存有很大的戒心和敵意,不太願意和內地溝通,不點名舉例指現時立法會唯一非建制派、新思維狄志遠,早前寧可到英國跑馬拉松,也不隨團考察大灣區,認為整個非建制陣營未回復爭取民主的決心。

成立17年的公民黨日前宣布清盤解散,作為創黨成員之一的湯家驊指,在香港爭取民主的唯一正當途徑就是依循《基本法》,當日創立公民黨的最堅強理念正是如此,「好可惜好多人得個講字,冇實質行動」,仍抱有反共、恐共、仇共的心態,這想法一日不改,一日也看不到民主發展的希望,因為這令對方有所戒心,不可能達成共識。

湯家驊舉例指,2014年4月,當時仍未退出公民黨的他,與全體立法會議員一同獲邀到上海交流政改,最後一天有機會與時任港澳辦主任王光亞見面反映政改意見,機會難得。當時他是首批北上的議員,期間「長毛」梁國雄因為攜帶六四書籍及衣衫,相關物品在機場被扣起,工作人員已很包容,表示「人可以入境,但物品要留低,離境時再俾返你」,但長毛拒絕。而當時其他民主派議員得知此事後也離場,民主黨部分成員雖然留下,但只留在酒店中拒絕出席活動,最後只得湯家驊與另一民主派參與會面,王光亞直接表明感到失望,溝通機會就這樣沒了。

他續指,事後中央官員、時任中聯辦主任張曉明向民主派釋出多次善意,邀請民主派晉餐討論政改,但都被拒絕。最終在2014年「8.31」決定當日,有民主派領頭人物早上走到湯家驊辦公室拍門,詢問他「為何不與他們坐低傾」。他直言當時啞口無言不知如何回應,「大家好似生活喺兩個唔同星球」,因為中央已多次表明希望溝通,但民主派拒絕。

湯家驊認為在過去二十多年,民主派在推動民主過程中,從來沒有想過中央政府是持分者,改革制度前應該取得中央的信任、達成共識,一心只想製造最大的政治壓力,以為得到國際注目中央就會屈服。他明言成立公民黨是其「從政多年來最大的失敗」,當時認為社會需要有人代表中間聲音,可是後來該黨與創黨理念愈走愈遠,至2019年一發不可收拾。他不點名批評一些前黨友「為暴力開脫」的言論,認為今日年輕人因暴力行為而坐牢,他們也有責任。
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